Introduction to Beyond Sunday Series: Stay the Path (book) Promo Priscilla endorses Bobbie Houstons book. What Ive given you here are not my personal views. My personal views dont matter, and neither do yours. 2. But we hope that as your faith increases, our area of influence among you will greatly increase as well, 16 so that we can preach the gospel in the regions beyond you. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. Though you may have become acquainted with her over the last several years from her roles in the movies Overcomer and War Room,she has been writing womens Bible studies and has been a popular speaker at womens conferences and other events for many years. But, yes, sometimes I do offer to send someone Im talking to (face to face) links to my articles, other peoples articles, books, sermons, etc., if theyd like to study an issue more. 3 Tests Of Plagiarism: Do Your Sermons Pass Them. Michelle, what do you think about this article? Elizabeth. CARM has done articles on Beth Moore, Joyce Meyer, and some other well-known false teachers, which Ive linked to in other articles. Unfortunately, Word Press doesnt show me that kind of thing until after Ive published my own comment. Accused is a very loaded, and in this case, inaccurate term. (Edited to add- After I posted this comment, I noticed your comment was addressed to Seth Dunn, not to me. I understand that you have your opinion about Mrs Shirer but to judge I do not think God led you to write this check your heart. Scripture: 2 Kings 5:1-15 Denomination: Baptist Going Beyond What Is Expected? Genesis 24:15-20, Denomination: Scripture: Remember, Scripture, not our ideas and opinions are what we must follow and obey. Armor of God Workbook with Video Access Priscilla Shirer is not as well known, which is probably why they havent gotten to her yet. ROger Oakland of understanding the times and a few good men, are putting together a web site. We are officially in the middle or a Pandemic called COVID19. Yes, there are many more examples of Priscillas poor handling of Scripture in the Additional Resources section. Jakes church, The Potters House, where, during a Gods Leading Ladiesgraduation ceremony, Priscilla accepted the Lady of Destiny award. But Jesus said unto them, They need not Hi Lisa- I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help answer your questions and give you a biblical understanding of womens roles in the church. This is not a new idea. Priscilla teaches something different. Looking back over my copy of He Speaks to Me,and sifting through numerous videos of her teaching, its clearthat her method of teaching is mainly eisegesis. Scripture (Romans 16:17-18, 2 John 9-1, Titus 3:10-11, and others) says we are to run from them, not listen to them, and certainly we should not encourage lost people to listen to them, lest they put their faith in a false christ and remain in their sin. Sometimes the Bible can be difficult because it steps on our toes, but I promise, I will always point you Scripture, not to stories, fluff, false doctrine, or your own opinions, feelings, and experiences. If youre in need of suggestions of doctrinally sound blogs for women, go to the top of this page and click on Recommended Bible Teachers. Ive got two lists of 10 up there, and another one coming in the near future. FOCAL POINT: TO IDENTIFY THREE DANGERS BELIEVERS MUST AVOID. The result is that those doctrines and beliefs often conflict with Scripture because theyre not based on Scripture but a fallible personal experience. If a big guy writes against a LifeWay person, he might not get anymore invitations. I thought Jesus used parables as a means of illustrating profound, divine truths. In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. - Jonah 2:10. No where did she usurp authority etc. Let's not go beyond what the Lord says through His Word. What does the Bible say about discerning between true and false doctrine? When the Bible says not to do something and you do it anyway, thats a sin. Id encourage you not to take my word for it, but to examine the evidence against Scripture (in context, of course) for yourself. After a bit of research on Ms. Shirer, Im determined that shes one to beware of. Let's find out as we begin this study in discernment, Choose What Is Right. God knew what He was doing. Notice the emphasis around the 1:37 mark on peoples personal experiences (praying for miracles, etc.) Before you answer No too quickly, consider that we cannot live without fear. Maybe God wants to stretch you beyond here! and Serita Jakes (see below). It is about sin in the local congregation where you actually know the person personally and have access to him/her. However, from time to time, I get people who comment or send e-mails pretending to genuinely want help just so they can get their comments published and who then proceed to argue and twist Scripture in subsequent comments. I am currently getting familiar with blogs for Christian ladies and your thorough, scholarly, biblical recommendations are absolutely invaluable. A large chunk of the New Testament (Matthew 7:15-23, 2 Peter 2, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, the book of Jude, and many other passages) is devoted to warning people against false teaching. In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. But you have fired a shot across the bow and Im hoping that you will have the courage to further clarify your stand against a sister. INTRODUCTION NOW, I have to preface this with this was MANY years ago. Having just heard what efforts even St. Paul had to make to run in the Christian race, and how terribly their fathers in the wilderness had failed to meet the requirements of God, they might be inclined to throw up every effort in despair. Priscilla often uses poor hermeneutics when handling Gods word. Do you think the stretching feels good? B. It would stand to reason that all those that have never heard of Christ have not accepted Him and therefore, as Rom 1 details, they die in their sin. I had to look these babies up in the dictionary!) We have many of these moments through out our physical lives. Olga Souders As I mentioned in my comment, I was here with my wife, completely of my own volition, in no way did Michelle do anything unbiblical. INTRODUCTION: :0), She also hangs out with Beth Moore. Luke 9:1-10:20, Denomination: The law in this case, being Scripture. She begins most lessons with a story or personal experience, uses these stories to formulate her own spiritual principles, and then adds in a smattering of Bible verses (often out of context) to support her ideas. When this is done, I will go to the king, even though it is against the law. Paul is quite clearthat people who preach another gospel are accursed, or damned, and that we are not to partner with them. I thought most people read themselves in scripture. Verse Concepts. Then you won't arrogantly place one of us in opposition to the other. God made you capable and smart enough to read His word in a systematic way, understand it, and grow from it. #3- There are a couple of links in the additional resources section that deal with Priscillas teaching of contemplative prayer, but I really should have included one in the paragraph itself, so Ive fixed that. Free Sermons and Sermon Outlines for Preaching : How To Respond To Newly-Delivered People Who Still Are A Mess. TRUTH AND LOVE 18:15-18), although I would add: The minute someone puts something on Youtube, Face Book, Twitter, or any other social media, or public outlet for that matter, your proof text falls flat in on itself, because more than anything this text deals with proper Church discipline. Again, since Scripture, not our opinions or feelings, is our authority, we have to obey that. Or will we apply extra effort and go beyond our duty? I felt the Lord provided it at the very time I needed it. Bushnell Assembly of God unbiblical) meditation. Love Your Life 2018 (March 20, 2019) with Victoria Osteen and Terri Savelle Foy, Know Your God | Joyce Meyer and Priscilla Shirer (In this clip, Priscilla also gushes over Henry Blackaby who mishandles Scripture and teaches a form of mysticism. #4b believers from different denominations Priscilla references who rattled her theological box may have been part of Priscillas initial exposure to false Word of Faith teaching and false teachers such as the aforementioned Meyer, Caine and Osteens. Since you havent had a chance to question Priscilla about what she was talking about here (or maybe it was revealed in this Bible study? Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, From: Choose What is Right: A Study in Discernment- Lesson 1: Introduction. As Christians, the Bible is our authority, so its what the Bible says that matters, and thats what I point women to. Our ladies Bible study is just about to start a Priscilla Shirer study and I was doing some research on Priscilla and found your blog (whew! My co-leader read your thoughts about Priscilla and I presented your views to the members of our study. You could choose to simply pick up your Bible and study it. None. People who are genuinely born again have a hunger and thirst for studying the truth of Gods word and growing in Christ. but I do know that I love Jesus and Im going to heaven, so Im just fine with that. Are they guiding and leading a flock (a church)? In closing out this conversation, I would strongly encourage you to continue practicing what youve said- just study your Bible in a systematic way, using good hermeneutics, and stay away from false teachers like Priscilla Shirer. Also, Lisa is doing the Women of Joy tour with Christine Caine, Lysa TerKeurst, Ann Voskamp, Lauren Daigle, etc. Here they are promoting silence. He wants you to learn good theology and sound doctrine. Assembly Of God. she said what she means by that is, to see biblical womanhood flourish would be a great joy! In fact, the Bible says the opposite. 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Furthermore, if this is a disingenuous comment/questions, you are being deceitful and displaying ungodly character and you need to repent. If you have Priscillas contact information and can get her to talk to me (Ive attempted to communicate with her several times and have been ignored), I will be delighted to discuss this issue and the entirety of this article with her. Well since thats the case, why dont you study and agree with what the Bible says? Though the Bible allowed provisions for indentured servitude, which was a humane alternative to such harsh punishments for failure to pay one's debts, such as d One example that best showcases Priscillas penchant for eisegesis and poor hermeneutics can be found in this promotional video for her study,One in a Million: 0:46-This same God was supposed to be speaking to me, teaching to me, making Himself relevant to mein the regular rhythms of my everyday living. Im surprised to hear thats her position. Esther 4:16 fasting. It is a sad irony that Priscilla Shirer opted to name her ministry Going Beyond, because this is exactly what she is choosing to do right now. Even if shes twisted. 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. Joshua 24:1-33, Beyond Sunday is about being a person who is after Gods own heart a person who loves God first and foremost who places their love relationship number one in their life the person who does the One Thing the greatest thing first with God/Jesus love, Beyond Sunday pt. Elizabeth. Go beyond what's familiar. Yes it is the little people or the less known that are standing against these deceptions and I am so glad that you are and there are many more. God bless you, and keep up the good work sister! The sweet missionary who taught us wide-eyed teenagers has since passed into Heaven. Like The Gospel Coalition, CARM, Tim Challies, etc?) If you are considering commenting or sending me an e-mail objecting to the fact that I warn against false teachers, please click here and read this article first. Warning people away from false teaching is not gossip. Click on link: #FerventFridays - Week 1 - Your Passion. .. that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. read more, Scripture: You should bring these points about Shirer up to your pastor if her studies are being pushed in your church. All of the resources and links Ive included are from credible sources (The disclaimer at the top of the list simply means I have not read everything ever written by every single resource Ive listed. If a pastor (or husband- Beth has also said she is acting under her husbands mantle of authority) tries to give her that authority, he is putting himself in the place of God who has prohibited it and he is sinning, too. I cant but take this article with only a grain of salt. - Jonah didnt smell good. The Bible doesnt say anywhere that because only two people out of two million entered the Promised Land that only a handful of people will be able to experience (theres that word again) what weve learned on the pew.. 4. Furthermore (since Priscilla looks to tangible experiences and anecdotal evidence as support for her ideas), both anecdotal church history and the experiences of Christians who are alive today prove this idea to be false. 15 Neither do we boast beyond our limits in the labors of others. 4. It is as old as the Scriptures themselves. You do not want to get rid of fear entirely. Who then do you believe has not sinned and is qualified to teach Gods Word? #1- Thank you so much for letting me know that link was broken. Let us look at it from a mindset point of view. If false teachers and their followers would simply repent and believe and obey Scripture, there would be no more division in the Body. This article is kept continuously updated as needed. 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